February 22, 2008

No smoking... smoking?

You shouldn’t smoke! Some people still do!

In France, the interdiction against smoking in cafes, bars, restaurants and nightclubs came into force in January this year. In the immediate it seems that the turnover at these places on average has decreased by some 5% due to lost customers and there are of course some demonstrations and other manifestations against these measures! Experience from other countries seem however to prove that customers will come back after a while and that new customers (non-smokers, families with kids…) will more than replace this loss. Let’s see!

You are still allowed to smoke outside! So what is inside or outside? As France is very good in creating laws and rules, but often is even better in finding out how to escape from them, you can now see a large number of places arranged so that you can pretend that customers are outside; terraces under some kind of awning, with cellophane walls etc… and, for the winter, with gas or electric braziers! For some suppliers of such equipment, the new ban has been very good business!

It's already time to wish you a nice weekend again!

33 comments:

Emily Lin said...

Indeed smoking is bad for health. I'm impressed with the act of banning smoking in public at ur country. We seldom see a restaurant which doesn't allow people to smoke at all. So, has this banning caused any subjection?

Jessica said...

I'm pleased to see you address this. In most states here you can't smoke indoors and you're right, eventually, not only will new customers emerge, but those smokers will be back. I was shocked when France started limiting smoking and it's interesting to see the reaction of the French.

Olivier said...

je vais donc raconter une legere anecdote sur les méfaits de cette loi, pour moi qui ne fume pas. Tout les midis, je pars faire une petite ballade et je finis cette ballade dans un bar pour un prendre un cafe. Adorant le froid, je prends toujours mon cafe en terrace et je suis souvent tout seul (ce qui tombe bien, ne pouvant pas rentrer car avant il y avait trop de fumée dans le bar et je ne supporte pas la fumée (leger probleme avec les yeux) )mais maintenant avec cette loi, tout le monde sort sur la terrace pour fumer et me voila obliger de rentrer dans le bar...et ben moi je prefere boire mon cafe dehors, voila un des mefaits de cette loi.......bon je crois que je viens de raconter ma vie...je ne vais pas trop empieter quand meme sur tes commentaires Peter ;o)) Bon weekend et a dans une semaine

Azer Mantessa said...

hehehehe

long live non-smokers!

lyliane said...

La cigarette m'a toujours plus ou moins gênée dans ma vie, je n'ai jamais fumé, mais suis toujours entourée de fumeurs! et c'est toujours sur moi que vient la fumée.C'est pour ma maison que j'aurai aimé faire une loi d'interdiction de fumer, mais alors je ne serai plus entourée.
Heureux Peter qui vit à Paris, il y a bien longtemps, qu'en Suède il est interdit de fumer et tes courageux compatriotes sont dehors même par -30°, il faut vraiment être bien dépendant, les pauvres.....A la semaine prochaine.

hpy said...

Je n'aime pas les interdictions en général, mais c'est parfois le comportement des gens qui fait qu'on invente tout un tas de lois + ou - superflues. Cette conviction tout à fait personnelle n'a rien à voir avec la cigarette en particulier.
Chez toi aussi, tu fumes dehors! N'est-ce pas?

Mathilde said...

Hello Peter,

Alors la balade des toutous c'était mardi (grand soleil) mercredi jour de la Sainte Chapelle, m'empêche d'expliquer "un foudroyant virus" qui m'a cloué chez moi pendant deux jours... Je reporte donc la Sainte Chapelle Rhalala....

Je reviens étudier ton post....

à tout à l'heure...

Neva said...

Our state has the same law in effect since January as well. Many restaurants have not been as creative as some of yours in Paris! I am waiting to see how it goes as well. Thanks for all the nice comments. I have been busy (eating lunch and dinner with her)at the retirement home with my 92 year old friend until her daughter gets back from vacation and the 92 year old will come back home (which is across the street from me). My blogging time has decreased to minutes a day!-but just temporarily.

Ex-Shammickite said...

Restaurants, bars, and all public places have a smoking ban here in Ontario. The city of Waterloo where YoungerSon went to University had a smoking ban for many years, which surprised me as it is a University town. But the rules were accepted by the young people and nobody smoked.
I really dislike smoke in my eyes when I want to enjoy a nice dinner at a restaurant, so I was very happy when the smoking ban came into effect.

Chuckeroon said...

...and while the authorities prattle about "Global Warming" they sit back and watch bars and pubs setting up outdoor gas heaters ( made in China and burning Russian gas ) blasting heat into the cold atmosphere. What is the logic of these developments? What does it tell us?

Peter said...

emily:
A lot of dicsussions about it before and still now. Let's see in a couple o fmonths!

jessica:
I remember when you could not smoke on aeroplanes any more. A lot or proteststhen, hardly any more!

olivier:
Intéressant!

Peter said...

azer:
... and after all, should we not wish long life also to smokers?

lyliane:
La co-habitation n'est pas toujours facile!

hpy:
Le bon sens n'est pas toujours gagnant!

Peter said...

mathilde:
A tout à l'heure!

neva:
Taking care of friends comes clearly before blogging!

ex-shammickite:
I would have preferred mutual undestanding, but if one side has to "win" I guess it must be the non-smokers!

Peter said...

chuckeroon:
Nice argumentation!

ruth said...

It's amazing this went into effect. I felt the same after Ireland banned smoking too. If pubs can be smoke free! It's funny how spaces are being created to let people smoke while they eat "outside."

Noushy Syah said...

Peter, I think in UK the law of smoking/smoker started last September, not very sure, but as usual pple tend to make noise initially but settled later on..now it just normal and pple get used to it.
(not sure abt the turn out after the implementation of the law - OK I guess)

Have a gr8 w/end Peter and this is for you:
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Take care.

Mona said...

ban on smoking in buildings is usually due to the double harm that smokers can cause by smoking in closed spaces. It contaminates closed atmosphere five time more & cause others who are inside to what is called 'passive smoke' which can be very dangerous to the non smokers.

Besides there might be people who are asthmatic in those closed spaces & that might cause a tremendous harm to their health and endanger their lives.

when I was in New York, they had banned smoking even in apartments, since the air conditioner ducts would carry the smoke to other apartments and endanger the health of babies and the children there.

Smoking is very injurious to health. I think It is more macho to not smoke than to do so. It shows that you are the mater of yourself rather than a slave to a small cigarettee

Mona said...

master, not mater ;)

GMG said...

Hi Peter, here I am trying to recapture your last posts on my weekly visit!
First, the Bir-Hakeim bridge: fully agree with you that it is a beautiful bridge, and it always provides the opportunity for great shots when the train is on the top!
Then, the Montorgueil series: it's amazing how that neighbourhood changed... I still remember the discussions on the moving of the market, the first time I was in Paris in 1969... and once I was L'Escargot, though I don't remember having tried the Rocher de Cancalle! Fortunately, you show us everything, including the Passages, which are one of the most interesting features of urban architecture in Paris!
The new Sollex from Pininfarina looks great, but I don't try two-wheel vehicles... ;))
The Lavirotte buildings look great. Didn't make the tour of Lavirotte's Art Nouveau buildings in Paris, but it should be considered; the closest I did was Victor Horta's buildings in Brussels...
Finally the smoking ban. We also have a huge controversy here in Portugal with the coming into force of the European ban... As a non-smoker, I feel great; but start thinking that smokers are now a minority, and usually minorities should be somehow protected...
Thanks for your comments at Blogtrotter. As you know,
I’m still strolling around the streets of Sofia; that was June/July 2006!
Have a great weekend!
Gil

oldmanlincoln said...

When no smoking happened here there was a lot of bitching about it, but after several years and no smoking laws in effect now for "public" places, nobody thinks much about it. It is so nice to be able to go anywhere and not smell cancer sticks.

'JoAnn's-Digital-Eyes'NL said...

Do you smoke Peter? I don't do it anymore since 10 years I quess, before that I smoked, etter not now anymore, Neh no fun at all...

Have a great weekend ( I was busy with my sick dog) Thanks for visiting my blog last week. :) JoAnn

April said...

A nice weekend to you, too, Peter. It's very mild here, but today with grey sky.

Non-smoking will start in June (?) here, I think. It's handled so differently here in Germany because it's a federal decision. Every part of Germany has its own laws in concern of smoking.

As for me - having never smoked - I'm longing for smokeless pubs and restaurants. There are some I don't visit because I can't stand the smoke and the smell in the clothes the day after, not to speak of health.

You've shown interesting examples of 'outside smoker areas'.

di.di said...

in kl the non-smoking section mostly was separated from the smoking area by a glass --> that's how they maintain the biz i guess.. when gov banned smoking in shopping malls, hospitals, schools compound, airports....

Deslilas said...

L'exemple vient d'en haut.
Enfin façon de parler !

Peter said...

ruth:
I was also surprised how obviously well the thing passed in Ireland!

noushy:
I'm sure it will be accepted also here with the time!
... I will check what kind of surprise there is on your blog!

mona:
I appreciate all you say... I must try to be the master of myself!

Peter said...

gmg:
At least there something ou have missed in Paris (Lavirotte)! .. so next time!

oldmanlincoln:
As already said, I believe it will be well accepted also here with the time!

joann:
'm afraid I must answer with a "yes"! But I try to behave and not smoke when non-smokers, chidren... are present. Will I ever be able to stop?

Peter said...

april:
Yes, I know it will be handled differently in different "Länder"! Was surprised when I was recently working in Düsseldorf how it was allowed to smoke more or less everywhere!

di.di:
Even for a smoker, the small closed smoking rooms that exist in certain airports is just "too much"!

deslilas:
... d'en haut!

Maxime said...

Peut-être bien que Dieu est du coté des fumeurs (Dieu est un fumeur de havanes, disait Serge Gainsbourg), car cette année, l'hiver a été particulièrement clément et le printemps bien en avance, pour permettre de s'installer aux terrasses !

Cergie said...

J'ai vu mon premier cendrier collectif jeudi dernier devant un café d'un petit village du Val d'Oise : une vieille gamelle sans manche sur un pied bricolé. Cela m'a fait penser à ces crachoirs des temps jadis...

Ming the Merciless said...

What you mentioned is exactly what happened in NYC. A lot of restaurants and cafes complained that they were losing customers and they started constructing special "rooms" for smokers too. Now, it is almost a non-issue.

Hopefully, Paris will move along too and in a couple of years, this would be a non-issue too.

Nathalie said...

We're lucky in Avignon that the winter has been very mild, and people just go outside to smoke. One side effect I have found is the number of cigarette butts in the streets in front of bars and cafés !

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